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by the way, the same republicans who ran a campaign with president obama cutting $716 billion out of medicare, all the sudden want tremendous cuts in medicare. i think we'll get a dl. we have to. i think the president understands that. neil: i know we have to, but we've been this way before. here's my worry, that a bad deal could be worse than no deal. a bad deal, let's say there's cuts, and i don't envision many, your comment, though, withstanding, because i don't see the resolve for it because even slowing growth in a program is opposed b unions, the congressional black caucus, 101 democratic congressmen, when it comes toocial security, whether that should or shouldn't be part of the discussion is going to remain as a zeal to raise taxes over cutting spending. that's what worries me. >>well, you know, neil, i sit here in the financial markets, and so my concern all the time is protecting and preserving individuals and corporatis' wealth. i look at this, how does it affect the market, and to your point abt if this is a bad deal, where there's, you know, no spending cuts, increase in
by the way, the same republicans who ran a campaign with president obama cutting $716 billion out of medicare, all the sudden want tremendous cuts in medicare. i think we'll get a dl. we have to. i think the president understands that. neil: i know we have to, but we've been this way before. here's my worry, that a bad deal could be worse than no deal. a bad deal, let's say there's cuts, and i don't envision many, your comment, though, withstanding, because i don't see the resolve for it...
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that would let president obama pocket $1 trillion in tax revenue and secure a win on his key priority in the talks. but they would do nothing else. at the end of the year, we would still go over the fiscal cliff. remember, the bush tax cuts are one of the at least stimulative policies in the negotiations. according to the economic policy institute, extending the middle class tax cuts would wipe out only about 11% of the austerity's economic impact. 11%. but all that other stuff, the payroll tax cut, the unemployment insurance, the sequester, all that, that would still be expiring. so come early next year, the economy would likely be entering an austerity-induced recession. markets would be convulsing as they realize our austerity crisis is about to become also a default crisis. and so the economy, as a whole, is going to be going nuts. poll after poll already shows republicans are receiving more blame for the potential failure of the debt talks. and after telling the press they're going to make a strategic decision to use a debt ceiling as more and more dangerous leverage, they're lik
that would let president obama pocket $1 trillion in tax revenue and secure a win on his key priority in the talks. but they would do nothing else. at the end of the year, we would still go over the fiscal cliff. remember, the bush tax cuts are one of the at least stimulative policies in the negotiations. according to the economic policy institute, extending the middle class tax cuts would wipe out only about 11% of the austerity's economic impact. 11%. but all that other stuff, the payroll tax...
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. >> reporter: in his saturday weekly address, president obama signaled he is open to making cuts on programs like medicare and medicaid if republicans agree to raise tax rates for the rich. >> i am willing to find way to bring down the cost of health care without hurting seniors and other american who is depend on it. i am willing to make more entitlement spending cuts on top of the $1 trillion in spending cuts i signed into law last year. >> his talks came after speaker of the house john boehner reported the talks are stalled. >> there is no progress to report. >> his democratic counterpart, pelosi, blames bangle they returned an -- blames boehner. >> they returned an empty letter lacking in specifics. >> federal income tax rates will go back up to the higher clinton era levels and long term unemployment benefits will dry up for over 2 million americans who have been out of work for six months or more. on friday bade boehner did not rule out a compromise on tax hikes for top earner, somewhere between 25% and the clinton era 36%. even if the two sides are making progress behind the
. >> reporter: in his saturday weekly address, president obama signaled he is open to making cuts on programs like medicare and medicaid if republicans agree to raise tax rates for the rich. >> i am willing to find way to bring down the cost of health care without hurting seniors and other american who is depend on it. i am willing to make more entitlement spending cuts on top of the $1 trillion in spending cuts i signed into law last year. >> his talks came after speaker of...
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between 50,000 to 90,000 jobs could be lost if across-the- board spending cuts and tax increases are not averted. mike miller says that it will help determine what major finance initiatives will need to be considered for the state's upcoming legislation. president barack obama says approach in the fiscal cliff will add to holiday stress for american families. >> the closer it gets to the brink, the more stressed they will be. businesses are making decisions right now about investment and hiring. they don't have confidence that we can get this thing done, they will start pulling back and we could have a lousy time in our haqqani for the next several months. >> the president made the remarks while visiting with the virginia family to talk about the budget crisis. >> for now, the stalled negotiations cannot seem to be affecting local holiday shopping and events in and around baltimore. >> harbour east is one of the air is a special -- with special events going on throughout the city. winter wonderland promotes local artists and shoppers can get free parking. it is about promoting busine
between 50,000 to 90,000 jobs could be lost if across-the- board spending cuts and tax increases are not averted. mike miller says that it will help determine what major finance initiatives will need to be considered for the state's upcoming legislation. president barack obama says approach in the fiscal cliff will add to holiday stress for american families. >> the closer it gets to the brink, the more stressed they will be. businesses are making decisions right now about investment and...
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conway distracts with negative ads to hide his support for obama care, which cuts medicare by $500 billion. >> that was 2010. fast forward to this year's election and the same principle carries through. each side tried to convince voters that the other guy wanted to take the hatchet to medicare. >> the biggest, coldest power play of all in obama care came at the expense of the elderly. $716 billion, funneled out of medicare by president obama >> my plan's already extended medicare by nearly a decade. their plan ends medicare as we know it. >> on medicare, for current retirees, he's cutting $716 billion from the program. i can't understand how you can cut medicare $716 billion for current recipients of medicare. >> look, these guys haven't been big on medicare from the beginning. their party's not big on medicare from the beginning. folks, use your common sense. who do you trust on this? >> so, now, of course, given all the campaign rhetoric coming from both sides, we are on the other side of an election that proved that there is a bipartisan consensus, that it is bad to be the kind of poli
conway distracts with negative ads to hide his support for obama care, which cuts medicare by $500 billion. >> that was 2010. fast forward to this year's election and the same principle carries through. each side tried to convince voters that the other guy wanted to take the hatchet to medicare. >> the biggest, coldest power play of all in obama care came at the expense of the elderly. $716 billion, funneled out of medicare by president obama >> my plan's already extended...
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all of those americans, too, get a tax cut. the obama administration is happening what happens for the aying american families. we have congressman randy forbes. >> let me ask you something. do you feel like a president actually wants this to happen so that it gives him some political ad vantage? >> i have to judge that by two things. first of all what i am hearing from my colleagues on the democratic leadership side they said they wanted to go over the fiscal cliff because we have argued all along they will start by simply taxing everybody over 250,000. they told me they wouldn vote fr anything that would tax everybody over 150,000. you take the president's actions. the president doesn't want to get an agreement or compromise he wants to get his way. he won't come to the table with any serious proposal because we can get a solution everybody can live with. >>> they have a bit of a messaging problem. i don't understand why there's not more of a conversation that starts with the fact these taxes go up. democrats would not extend
all of those americans, too, get a tax cut. the obama administration is happening what happens for the aying american families. we have congressman randy forbes. >> let me ask you something. do you feel like a president actually wants this to happen so that it gives him some political ad vantage? >> i have to judge that by two things. first of all what i am hearing from my colleagues on the democratic leadership side they said they wanted to go over the fiscal cliff because we have...
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it will be tax cuts. obama's premise that this country'country'scountry's firse fraudulent and he's fixing it, and they'll be etched in stone. tax cuts. >> the president has given the republicans flexibility to come up with a credible, specific plan. what they offered in return was an empty letter. >> when it comes to fiscal cliff that's threat nick our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> tax cuts is what caused the fall of the united states from super power status. >> this president just won a big election and you would think that he would want to lead. >> we've had the election. the president was clear in the campaign that he was advocating and fighting for the middle income tax cuts. >> tax cuts. the whole premise of tax cuts is going to be blamed for all of this economic mess. >> this is a moment of truth. the clock is ticking, christmas it coming, the goose is getting fat. in many homes across america, it's a very, very lean time. >> the reports indicate that the
it will be tax cuts. obama's premise that this country'country'scountry's firse fraudulent and he's fixing it, and they'll be etched in stone. tax cuts. >> the president has given the republicans flexibility to come up with a credible, specific plan. what they offered in return was an empty letter. >> when it comes to fiscal cliff that's threat nick our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> tax cuts is what caused the fall of the united...
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among the major sticking points is republican support for continuing tax cuts for the wealthiest americans, something mr. obama disagrees with. >> we could probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. but we need that conceptual breakthrough that says we need a balanced plan. that's what's best for the economy. that's what the american people voted for. that's how we're going to get it done. >> mr. obama's treasury secretary, tim geithner, went a step further, saying that the president would allow the nation to go over the fiscal cliff at the end of the year, if republicans don't agree to raise taxes on the wealthy. >>> and maybe abraham lincoln can help the fiscal cliff negotiations. harry reid believes so. the senate will get inspiration when reid hosts a clescreening the spielberg movie. >> whatever helps to get things moving, right? >>> hundreds of same-sex couples in washington state lined up overnight to get a marriage license now that they can legally wed. the county clerk's office in seattle opened at midnight to accommodate couples eager to make history. there's anoth
among the major sticking points is republican support for continuing tax cuts for the wealthiest americans, something mr. obama disagrees with. >> we could probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. but we need that conceptual breakthrough that says we need a balanced plan. that's what's best for the economy. that's what the american people voted for. that's how we're going to get it done. >> mr. obama's treasury secretary, tim geithner, went a step further, saying...
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the thing that a lot of people worry about in private is him and obama will cut a deal in late december negotiations. but boehner has been making tough moves. when it comes down to it he's going to agree to something with the president and it is not going to be able to pass his own conference. do you have any sense of what you think he's able to do and not do at this point? >> we come back again to the entitlement question. it's going to be easier for the caucus to swallow some tax rate increase if they have something to show for it. and the irony here, on a whole variety of issue, the democrats should be in favor of certain kinds of entitlement reforms. it's not actually that big of a give. on social security, as an example, democrats have won for the time being on privatization being completely off the table. there's a strong argument for trying to lock that in now as opposed to waiting and having that potentially come back. in addition, one of the big concerns here is doing too much fiscal austerity too soon. the more you did in the form of social security which can be phased in grad
the thing that a lot of people worry about in private is him and obama will cut a deal in late december negotiations. but boehner has been making tough moves. when it comes down to it he's going to agree to something with the president and it is not going to be able to pass his own conference. do you have any sense of what you think he's able to do and not do at this point? >> we come back again to the entitlement question. it's going to be easier for the caucus to swallow some tax rate...
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spending cuts. unless we treat this like it's an actual problem and not just political theater, all of this stuff is meaningless. totally meaningless. >> the thing i would say on that is it's less like an economic plan and more like fairness and people feeling like they are not getting the raw end of the deal. >> that's political and that's fine. i understand the political argument for it. they are acting like this is going to solve a lot of problems and it's not. republicans are acting like it is going to be the end of the world and it's not. we need to just swallow this bitter pill and move forward and talk about tax reform and entitlement reform and the things we need to address our fiscal problems. >> part of what we are seeing is going back to seeing an anti-government party trying to drag down government and that's going to be good for the business in general. i agree with most of what you guys said except with what you said. i'm glad you said fetish. i like when the word fetish is in any conv
spending cuts. unless we treat this like it's an actual problem and not just political theater, all of this stuff is meaningless. totally meaningless. >> the thing i would say on that is it's less like an economic plan and more like fairness and people feeling like they are not getting the raw end of the deal. >> that's political and that's fine. i understand the political argument for it. they are acting like this is going to solve a lot of problems and it's not. republicans are...
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in obama added this little thing the other day. he said i don't want a debt ceiling or bound like it going for it. debt doesn't matter. >> bob: respond to the social security thing. >> eric: obama in october of 2008 before he was president obama. season. >> the way bush has done it, over the last eight years is to take out a credit cardback of china in the game of the children, driving up the national debt. that is irresponsible and unpatriotic. >> eric: unpatriotic. $5 trillion in debt. president obama will add ten, 11, 12 trillion in debt. when he is done with this. >> for years, president obama running when he was senator, running for president always said that the bush tax cuts were only for the rich and only benefit the rich. now he says that the republicans are holding hostage for the lower and middle class. the tax cuts will expire. hypocrisy knows no bounds. >> bob: you just keep shooting your mouth off over and over about this stuff. i said if they came up with a deal on inflation adjustment on social security it would sav
in obama added this little thing the other day. he said i don't want a debt ceiling or bound like it going for it. debt doesn't matter. >> bob: respond to the social security thing. >> eric: obama in october of 2008 before he was president obama. season. >> the way bush has done it, over the last eight years is to take out a credit cardback of china in the game of the children, driving up the national debt. that is irresponsible and unpatriotic. >> eric: unpatriotic. $5...
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taxes, spending cuts. >>> i'm susan in for s.e. today. michigan's governor driving the motor city in to a fight over the unions. why's the president playing backseat driver? >>> i'm steve kornacki. there's outrage maybe even criminal charges coming in that death of the nurse in england. wait a minute. are we being too hard on the pranksters? >> i'm krystal ball. in to the holiday spiritual. our friend is back at the table with tips to dare we say it enjoy the season? >>> all and that a federal case of it. why when it comes to gay marriage the train can't be stop. neither can we. it's "the cycle" and it's monday, december 10th. >>> it's monday, fun day here at "the cycle." let's get the party started. where will it land today? fiscal cliff? huh. so much for fun. well you know what? we at "the cycle" can make it fun. look at this. the president living it up in motown last hour calling on republicans to stop being party poopers. >> i believe america only succeeds and thrives when we've got a strong and growing middle class. i want us to brin
taxes, spending cuts. >>> i'm susan in for s.e. today. michigan's governor driving the motor city in to a fight over the unions. why's the president playing backseat driver? >>> i'm steve kornacki. there's outrage maybe even criminal charges coming in that death of the nurse in england. wait a minute. are we being too hard on the pranksters? >> i'm krystal ball. in to the holiday spiritual. our friend is back at the table with tips to dare we say it enjoy the season?...
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the only way to i void it is for president obama and congress to make a deal, cutting spending and raising revenue. adding to the sense of urgency. news that 350,000 people simply gave up looking for work in the month of november. and while that drove the unemployment rate down to 7.7%, the fiscal cuts and tax hikes are expected to dramatically slow job creation and increase unemployment possibly plunging the economy back into a recession. let's go to dana joining us from capitol hill. the latest negotiations don't seem to be going anywhere. >> they sure don't. the house speaker ended the week by calling it a wasted week. he only had one phone call with the president of the united states and he said it was just, "more of the same." now counter offer to what the republicans put out during the week which was $800 billion in new tax revenue. so there's certainly a lot of frustration. particularly right now on the side of republicans who understand that democrats have the leverage right now. but on friday, the speaker did do something that seemed to indicate a little bit of day light. and that
the only way to i void it is for president obama and congress to make a deal, cutting spending and raising revenue. adding to the sense of urgency. news that 350,000 people simply gave up looking for work in the month of november. and while that drove the unemployment rate down to 7.7%, the fiscal cuts and tax hikes are expected to dramatically slow job creation and increase unemployment possibly plunging the economy back into a recession. let's go to dana joining us from capitol hill. the...
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spending by demanding that president obama come up with john boehner's plan to cut spending. what those cuts are, no one is sure. >> now critics say the speaker is just asking democrats to put specifics into the republican proposal, but i say that's kind of fun. it makes the budget into a giant mad lib. for instance, we agree to cut $10 bazillion from the program that brings ukuleles to the sticky poor. toilet boobs. >> we will play our very own game of mad libs when house democratic whip steny hoyer joins us live just ahead on "now." to the best vacation spot on earth. (all) the gulf! it doesn't matter which of our great states folks visit. mississippi, alabama, louisiana or florida, they're gonna love it. shaul, your alabama hospitality is incredible. thanks, karen. love your mississippi outdoors. i vote for your florida beaches, dawn. bill, this louisiana seafood is delicious. we're having such a great year on the gulf, we've decided to put aside our rivalry. now is the perfect time to visit anyone of our states. the beaches and waters couldn't be more beautiful. take a bo
spending by demanding that president obama come up with john boehner's plan to cut spending. what those cuts are, no one is sure. >> now critics say the speaker is just asking democrats to put specifics into the republican proposal, but i say that's kind of fun. it makes the budget into a giant mad lib. for instance, we agree to cut $10 bazillion from the program that brings ukuleles to the sticky poor. toilet boobs. >> we will play our very own game of mad libs when house...
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instead of cutting spending. his plan will hurt nearly 1 million small businesses around our country. that will affect hundreds of thousands of jobs. >> reporter: and guys, there are republicans here on capitol hill who are urging the speaker to cut a deal with the president. i talked to one of the earliest republicans to say, you know what, let's take a the president up on his offer to extend the bush tax cuts for everybody under $250,000 and at least take that uncertainty off the table and then continue to negotiate the rest to have later. some of the republicans are now coalessing around that view that they should give into what the president is suggesting, at least temporarily, and continue to negotiate on the rest because there's a lot of political pain here for republicans if we do get to the point where we go over the cliff because of those higher tax rate pateryers, guys. >> all right, eamon. thank you. >> the talk continues, but none of it face to face. be sure to catch a live interview with one of the k
instead of cutting spending. his plan will hurt nearly 1 million small businesses around our country. that will affect hundreds of thousands of jobs. >> reporter: and guys, there are republicans here on capitol hill who are urging the speaker to cut a deal with the president. i talked to one of the earliest republicans to say, you know what, let's take a the president up on his offer to extend the bush tax cuts for everybody under $250,000 and at least take that uncertainty off the table...
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president obama has put spending cuts on the table. he's put an increase in the tax rates for the wealthiest americans on the table. we've put making sure that we have p get a tremendous amount of savings out of the entitlement programs. what have the republicans put on the table? virtually nothing. it is time to be rational and compromise. >> to that point, what haley barber said this morning about the possibility of compromise. he was on "morning joe" today. >> as a republican, i would take raising the rates on the two top brackets if, in return, we had tax reform laid out over a period of months, if we had entitlement reform. i would hold my nose despite the facts that raising those two tax is bad economics, bad for jobs, going to hurt the economy. i would hold my nose to get the other done. what i wouldn't do is vote for that and do nothing else. >> does he have a point? are democrats really prepared to deal with entitlement reform to maybe substantive cuts, the kinds the republicans are calling for? >> chris, hail by barbour menti
president obama has put spending cuts on the table. he's put an increase in the tax rates for the wealthiest americans on the table. we've put making sure that we have p get a tremendous amount of savings out of the entitlement programs. what have the republicans put on the table? virtually nothing. it is time to be rational and compromise. >> to that point, what haley barber said this morning about the possibility of compromise. he was on "morning joe" today. >> as a...
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republicans have to rethink the idea this is obama's idea if we get the huge cut in defense that are unsupportable. >> they are bluffing that they don't care about going over the fiscal cliff. a bluff. it will send economy in a tail spin. >> i don't think so. the president is fine going over the cliff. if you look what he gets and the ability to play hero if the country went over the cliff, the president can remedy two problems that democrats faced for years. he becomes a huge tax cutter. he can restore the defense cut. i think the point that you are making are logical and correct, that is not how it plays out. perception is as much as anything else. you looking at a media eager to blame republicans on this. >> that's why i'm correcting them. >> you are correcting them. >> bret: we have an online show to talk more about this. >> i'm correct them even more. >> bret: you can correct them more in a much more relaxed atmosphere. tune in. next up, look at the front runners for yes, 2016. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ] [ male announcer ] where do you hear that beat?] c
republicans have to rethink the idea this is obama's idea if we get the huge cut in defense that are unsupportable. >> they are bluffing that they don't care about going over the fiscal cliff. a bluff. it will send economy in a tail spin. >> i don't think so. the president is fine going over the cliff. if you look what he gets and the ability to play hero if the country went over the cliff, the president can remedy two problems that democrats faced for years. he becomes a huge tax...
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all with spending cuts and expiring tax credits. today, president obama pushed his proposed fix saying a deal must include higher tax rates. republicans say that is a job killer. they is said that forever. they let go of that, meeting at the white house yesterday. neither side will give any details about the conversation between president obama and speaker boehner. wendell, is there any time left to get this done? >>reporter: well, folks think there is time for enough of a deal but stopped short of a fiscal cliff but some think that has to happen this week. at a daimler truck stop the president didn't mention the upper income tax hike he is demanding but warned what will happen if congress doesn't extend the middle-class tax cuts both sides want. >> people will spend nearly $200 billion less than otherwise they would spend. consumer spending will go down. that means you have less customers, businesses get fewer profits, they hire fewer workers, you go in a downward spiral. wrong idea. >>reporter: the president criticized the right-t
all with spending cuts and expiring tax credits. today, president obama pushed his proposed fix saying a deal must include higher tax rates. republicans say that is a job killer. they is said that forever. they let go of that, meeting at the white house yesterday. neither side will give any details about the conversation between president obama and speaker boehner. wendell, is there any time left to get this done? >>reporter: well, folks think there is time for enough of a deal but...
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can president obama get anything done until he gets something, no? >> all the cuts that happened as a result of the fiscal cliff, all over the place. let's cut hundreds of billions in defense. it doesn't indicate what missions are going to be no longer what, programs we're going to kim. i mean, we really have to be stupid to be doing that. >> so irresponsible. >> not knowing where the cuts are hitting. >> right. >> for the security of this country. >> i agree. >> so, therefore, you're going to get some agreement. maybe it's january 5th, maybe it's december 30th, january 10th, but it will probably be a band-aid agreement. that's the problem. this isn't going to be one of these long-term deficit reduction, credible agreements that does tax reform, entitlement reform. >> that's for another day. >> that's for another day, so i don't think the markets are going to real that much, but i think it will prevent the fiscal cliff. >> always good to see you, larry. >> very good insights for next year. >> ten minutes before the closing pebble. a market that's low
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. >>> i now want to bring in a man who says president obama's plan would create jobs and cut the deficit. he's democratic congressman chris van hollen, maryland, ranking member of the house budget committee. welcome to you, sir. you said today -- >> good to be with you. >> good to be with you, too. we're in the fourth quarter as we approach the fiscal cliff. if we can deliver like rg iii delivers, we'll be doing well. the question i would ask is why the hell are we in the fourth quarter? why wasn't this done in the first quarter? >> well, piers, as you know, there were a number of efforts before the election to get this done and there were major differences between the parties, and those parties became a big part of the conversation during the presidential debate. the president could not have been clearer that he wanted to do two things. he wanted to boost economic growth by doing things like investing in our infrastructure which used to be a bipartisan idea, but also, extending middle class tax cuts and as you said, asking the wealthiest to pay a little bit more to reduce the deficit. t
. >>> i now want to bring in a man who says president obama's plan would create jobs and cut the deficit. he's democratic congressman chris van hollen, maryland, ranking member of the house budget committee. welcome to you, sir. you said today -- >> good to be with you. >> good to be with you, too. we're in the fourth quarter as we approach the fiscal cliff. if we can deliver like rg iii delivers, we'll be doing well. the question i would ask is why the hell are we in the...
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team obama is talking about a growth policy by cutting corporate tax rates and reforming the corporate code. that's right, i said cutting the tax rate. if there's any truth to it, i will optimistically support it. free market capitalism is the best path to prosperity, including corporate business tax reform, which i have wanted for so long, i can't even remember. i'm kudlow. we'll be back soon. >>> welcome back to the "kudlow report." facebook is paying interns the astonishing sums of $5,600 a month. that's about $67,000 a year and $25,000 more than the average u.s. salary. well, tech companies pay well because they want to recruit top engineering and math talent. the corporate taxes may be part of the fiscal cliff talks. here is dan mitchell, senior fellow at the cato institute. google stashed $10 million in bermuda, hp has almost all of its cash offshore and apple said to shareholders, two-thirds of its $121 billion of cash is held outside the united states. now why is that? is it just because they hate america? >> two things to understand. number one, everything they do is completel
team obama is talking about a growth policy by cutting corporate tax rates and reforming the corporate code. that's right, i said cutting the tax rate. if there's any truth to it, i will optimistically support it. free market capitalism is the best path to prosperity, including corporate business tax reform, which i have wanted for so long, i can't even remember. i'm kudlow. we'll be back soon. >>> welcome back to the "kudlow report." facebook is paying interns the...
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boehner was really only talking about the cost cuts that he's looking for from obama. obama's just trying to negotiate. so i don't even know why he spoke today. maybe to throw some cold water on the notion or maybe throw hope. we don't know. the point is ignore the headlines. let's just -- just invest for longer term. >> josh, what do you make of the 100-point move we're seeing in the dow today? it is the fifth straight session that the dow has been higher. we haven't had a stretch like that since march. >> scott, bank of america merrill lynch is out with a report today. they look at fund flows. what they've seen is something remarkable. individuals have been selling. but institutions and he think funds have been net buyers for the last four week institutions have bought an average of $300 million in net worth of stock. what that's telling you is that they're way more concerned with getting in position for next year and whatever the fed's going to do. tomorrow it's widely expected bernanke's going to announce some kind of a transaction in which he buys basically $650 b
boehner was really only talking about the cost cuts that he's looking for from obama. obama's just trying to negotiate. so i don't even know why he spoke today. maybe to throw some cold water on the notion or maybe throw hope. we don't know. the point is ignore the headlines. let's just -- just invest for longer term. >> josh, what do you make of the 100-point move we're seeing in the dow today? it is the fifth straight session that the dow has been higher. we haven't had a stretch like...
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president obama said that he is willing to sign it. so that would be one way to just sort of get some of this panic out of the way and let people deliberate and make some really good choices when we come back in january. >> i want to bottom line it very quickly with jared. i'm going to make you squirm, jared. >> god luck. >>maker the argument for going over it. you have to argue for it. go over the whole thing. what would it be? get our aaa back? >> that may be the only way we can get a responsible fiscal deal. and if that deal begins to take shape in late december, the only way to resolve the cliff may be to temporarily go over the cliff so that tax rates reset and we can get on a bitter fiscal trajectory, and -- and -- they can quickly, as nicole mentioned, reverse some worse effects of that. and in that sense, we've gone over it, but briefly. i'm not for it but that is a resolution that would really use the leverage, the dynamics that are in play right now to finally get us on a more sustainable fiscal path. >> it's not juvenile hal
president obama said that he is willing to sign it. so that would be one way to just sort of get some of this panic out of the way and let people deliberate and make some really good choices when we come back in january. >> i want to bottom line it very quickly with jared. i'm going to make you squirm, jared. >> god luck. >>maker the argument for going over it. you have to argue for it. go over the whole thing. what would it be? get our aaa back? >> that may be the only...
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of the bush tax cuts. that makes him complicity in the eyes of the base, and they're going to fire him from his job if he does that, in all likelihood. >> do you really think that he will get fired if he lets those tax cuts expire? >> it's at best 50-50 he keeps his job, if he cooperates in making that bargain. the best thing for boehner is for that to happen without his cooperation, without his active cooperation. it's got to happen without him. then they can go ahead and get the rest of the revenue without raising tax rates. then the tax rates will go back to the clinton levels. the rest of it will happen automatically, and, you know, the republicans are trying to do this complicated scenario where they vote present. if they don't vote and the democrats vote, it's this ritual where the dmgz do all the voting, and the republicans kind of stand by, and i think they're right to do that, because then you've got a trillion of revenue automatically locked in. then, you know, obama is asking for another $600 bi
of the bush tax cuts. that makes him complicity in the eyes of the base, and they're going to fire him from his job if he does that, in all likelihood. >> do you really think that he will get fired if he lets those tax cuts expire? >> it's at best 50-50 he keeps his job, if he cooperates in making that bargain. the best thing for boehner is for that to happen without his cooperation, without his active cooperation. it's got to happen without him. then they can go ahead and get the...
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they don't want to include spending cuts and president obama doesn't think he needs to. if we go over the cliff other polls suggest republicans will get the blame. they have most of the leverage, therefore we don't get to a compromise or a deal. one calf national, republicans recognized this lack of leverage. they looked into 2013 and see a couple months in we have a debt ceiling deal. if we don't do a compromise now we're going to hold you during that debt ceiling debate and get spending cuts out of you then and president obama does not want to relive that 2011 catastrophe, chaos. >> roland, before you go, i didn't hear anything, it was all, it sounded like charlie brown to me after i heard you say roland's right. i don't know if i've ever heard you utter those words, will cain. >> actually he often says that. this is not a shocker. it's not breaking news and exclusive. it happens a lot. >> it's a just in, but go ahead, what were you saying? >> here's the deal, first of all for the audience, we talk about the fiscal cliff, it involves three things. first of all it deals
they don't want to include spending cuts and president obama doesn't think he needs to. if we go over the cliff other polls suggest republicans will get the blame. they have most of the leverage, therefore we don't get to a compromise or a deal. one calf national, republicans recognized this lack of leverage. they looked into 2013 and see a couple months in we have a debt ceiling deal. if we don't do a compromise now we're going to hold you during that debt ceiling debate and get spending cuts...
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president obama proposed $4 trillion in deficit reduction, he has a balanced approach to take care of the middle class and that they have the certainty that they need that we make spending cuts that are significant, that make sense, and that we maintain the things that are going to keep us competitive globally like the central funding for education and innovation, and at the same time we also make sure we ask wealthiest americans to pay a little bit more and when it comes to our tax policy that if you work hard and play by the rules in america that everybody has a chance to succeed and that's why you've seen ceos from across the country sign on to that notion, with president obama, saying it's okay if we raise rates a little bit for folks who make more than $250,000 a year. the world is not going to come to an end. there are republican and conservative analysts and thought leaders like bill kristol who have said that. why the republicans in the house who really are still very entrenched with their tea party mentality have not yet understood that, and are still dug in, is really frustr
president obama proposed $4 trillion in deficit reduction, he has a balanced approach to take care of the middle class and that they have the certainty that they need that we make spending cuts that are significant, that make sense, and that we maintain the things that are going to keep us competitive globally like the central funding for education and innovation, and at the same time we also make sure we ask wealthiest americans to pay a little bit more and when it comes to our tax policy that...
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our costs are going to go up 19.5% next year, so we believe, we'll probably have to cut two or three people just to overcome the extra cost that's going to hit our business in 2013 so we've got obama care going through. we're going to take on half that cost and pass half of that on to our employees. think about that. that means that our middle class employees are going to see that increase in their health care costs next year. >> right. >> howard dean was just on with steve forbes, and howard dean's feeling is, look, we've got to solve this problem of the deficit somehow. we can't keep kicking the can down the road. >> bill, we can't. >> and there needs to be a shared burden for everybody. that would be your burden that you just identified, right? >> well, no doubt. we've got to share it across but think what everybody is talking about, personal income taxes. that's the topic of the day. we've got to raise personal income taxes. what does that do? does that go after warren buffett? warren buffett says he wants his taxes to go up, but what are we going to do, hit people $250,000 and a
our costs are going to go up 19.5% next year, so we believe, we'll probably have to cut two or three people just to overcome the extra cost that's going to hit our business in 2013 so we've got obama care going through. we're going to take on half that cost and pass half of that on to our employees. think about that. that means that our middle class employees are going to see that increase in their health care costs next year. >> right. >> howard dean was just on with steve forbes,...
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there's a lot of trust being put forward by lawmakers supporting president obama. are you confident that there's not going to be a bad deal out there for liberals? >> well, what i'm worried about is that there will be something between raising the age of medicare eligibility or means testing, further means testing medicare. you know, ed, we means test medicare right now. that's a really important point that gets lost. people who make over $85,000 a year pay more already. it's like, you know, arsenic or cyanide, which do you prefer? i don't think we should agree to either one. >> well, cantor and ryan are part of boehner's strategy team. what does that mean? >> i don't know what the heck that means. it probably means we won't get an agreement. boehner was again talking about the democrats really want business -- small business tax increases and the same old line that he's being fed. and he hasn't put his ideas on the table in a very clear way. >> is boehner about keeping his job? is he all about making sure that he can do a deal and still be speaker? >> that's what
there's a lot of trust being put forward by lawmakers supporting president obama. are you confident that there's not going to be a bad deal out there for liberals? >> well, what i'm worried about is that there will be something between raising the age of medicare eligibility or means testing, further means testing medicare. you know, ed, we means test medicare right now. that's a really important point that gets lost. people who make over $85,000 a year pay more already. it's like, you...
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unlike them, obama is not willing to destroy the global economy. and so they figure there is no real need to cut a deal now, because if that deal, particularly if they deal includes concessions like taxes, just wait a couple of months, take the debt ceiling hostage and make everybody believe you'll shoot. this is making boehner weaker. it gives haas republicans an excuse to ignore the cuts the deal he makes. they say oh, we'll just wait it out. the concern that bainler cut a deal that he can't actually deliver, or at the last minute he'll back off a deal because he won't have the votes. the white house, by the way, they don't think the debt ceiling is republican leverage. when you talk to them, they are all steel right now on that subject. their position is simple, and they deliver it in the tone of voice bruce willis reserves for talking to terrorists. they are not negotiating. not on that. if republicans go over the cliff and try to open up talks for raising the debt ceiling, the white house says they will not hold a meeting. they will not return
unlike them, obama is not willing to destroy the global economy. and so they figure there is no real need to cut a deal now, because if that deal, particularly if they deal includes concessions like taxes, just wait a couple of months, take the debt ceiling hostage and make everybody believe you'll shoot. this is making boehner weaker. it gives haas republicans an excuse to ignore the cuts the deal he makes. they say oh, we'll just wait it out. the concern that bainler cut a deal that he can't...
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obama will come back and say no, we're going to eliminate the tax cuts for the rich. we're just going to give them to the middle class, and that's where they're ahead in public opinion, but i think they're not going to have i any choice. republicans have to stick together. they have to resist the pressure of the white house, and if obama wants to take them over a cliff and wants to inherit a new recession which will destroy his second term, i think they ought to say if that's what you want, mr. president, we'll just do it. >> well said as always. charles krauthammer, thanks so much for being with us. appreciate it. >> it's a pleasure. >>> coming up, jones makes a grand return and gloats about the victory in the election. his speech was nothing short of offensive. we'll play it for you. you'll hear the less than civil rhetoric being spewed by the former green jobs czar. the situation in syria has hit critical mass that president assad is ready to launch chemical weapons on his own people. president obama issued a warning to assad. to assad. will he stand by his own the
obama will come back and say no, we're going to eliminate the tax cuts for the rich. we're just going to give them to the middle class, and that's where they're ahead in public opinion, but i think they're not going to have i any choice. republicans have to stick together. they have to resist the pressure of the white house, and if obama wants to take them over a cliff and wants to inherit a new recession which will destroy his second term, i think they ought to say if that's what you want, mr....
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obama and house speaker john boehner can strike a deal. we'll have the latest on the battle of wills in washington. >> the president is out this morning with a not-so-conciliatory note. we'll get the latest from david kerley coming up. >>> check this out. why all new cars may soon be spying on their drivers and making it tough for you to cover your tracks. >>> we're going to start, though, with what should have been a joyous week for the royal family. but news of kate's pregnancy was very quickly overshadowed by her hospitalization for morning sickness, a prank call that duped two of her nurses, and then, the suspected suicide of one of those nurses. this morning, the boss of the two australian deejays behind this prank is now speaking out. and abc's jeffrey kofman is in london on the story. jeffrey, good morning to you, sir. >> reporter: and good morning to you, dan. an outpouring of indignation, that is what we are seeing around the world as news of this story spreads. and nowhere is it stronger than in australia. all of it focused on th
obama and house speaker john boehner can strike a deal. we'll have the latest on the battle of wills in washington. >> the president is out this morning with a not-so-conciliatory note. we'll get the latest from david kerley coming up. >>> check this out. why all new cars may soon be spying on their drivers and making it tough for you to cover your tracks. >>> we're going to start, though, with what should have been a joyous week for the royal family. but news of kate's...
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it's fairly aapparent that barack obama has put no meaningfulnding cuts on the table. anybody who pays attention knows that. the president does not want a cut. he wants the big government. he wants to spend. in fact, he wants 500 million more to throw into some stimulus that hasn't worked the first two times he tried it. why do the american people say it's the g.o.p.'s fault when the president obviously isn't giving anything at all up? >> well, bill you know that and i know that in part because we watch fox news, and fox news reports it that way which is the straight forward way to report it. you can find that out from the other media, but you have to read it carefully because it's not apparent. all the conversation, all the discussion, all the news that's made in this whole discussion since the end of the election has been about what? it's been about tax rates on the rich. >> bill: right. >> that's been the whole story. the fact that the president hasn't come forward with anything meaningful on the spending side, especially on the entitlement side, it's possible to fi
it's fairly aapparent that barack obama has put no meaningfulnding cuts on the table. anybody who pays attention knows that. the president does not want a cut. he wants the big government. he wants to spend. in fact, he wants 500 million more to throw into some stimulus that hasn't worked the first two times he tried it. why do the american people say it's the g.o.p.'s fault when the president obviously isn't giving anything at all up? >> well, bill you know that and i know that in part...
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moving on, president obama's offer on the fiscal cliff cuts billions in defense spending. colonel oliver north says that will lead to disaster. he is here next. and tony hawk is here to show us a few new tricks, including one for all those parents out there whose kids will think are cool. i don't know if i'd do it in the rain, but he can. he's a prompt but olympic gabby douglas is here. a huge show! i think shaq in the house, too. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. >> gretchen: 23 minutes after the top of the hour. james holmes expected to appear in court today. this will be the first time we look at him since he was taken to the hospital for a head injury last month af
moving on, president obama's offer on the fiscal cliff cuts billions in defense spending. colonel oliver north says that will lead to disaster. he is here next. and tony hawk is here to show us a few new tricks, including one for all those parents out there whose kids will think are cool. i don't know if i'd do it in the rain, but he can. he's a prompt but olympic gabby douglas is here. a huge show! i think shaq in the house, too. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident......
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this hasn't presented itself as a party that wants to cut spending. on one hand you have president obama's proposal, which most agree is the responsible way of raising the debt, raising rates. and responsible cuts on entitlements and discretionary spending versus republicans who are divided against something that is a chicken hawk when it comes to the deficits, that is the boehner approach, or the more extremist position which is absolutely nothing.ç so this is an extraordinary position for the republican party to have evolved into. >> you must respond to what julian just said. >> i like julian an awful lot but i think what he said is entirely wrong. it's fascinating president obama last july, july of 2011, said we can get $1.2 trillion in revenue where we don't have to raise marginal tax rates and close loopholes and julian says most economists agree, in fact, this won't add to the deficit. look, you're only talking about $89 billion a year of the tax dollars of top two drapes. julian and i will agree, however, this deal is not serious. you need to
this hasn't presented itself as a party that wants to cut spending. on one hand you have president obama's proposal, which most agree is the responsible way of raising the debt, raising rates. and responsible cuts on entitlements and discretionary spending versus republicans who are divided against something that is a chicken hawk when it comes to the deficits, that is the boehner approach, or the more extremist position which is absolutely nothing.ç so this is an extraordinary position for...
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president obama changing his tone a little bit mentioning compromise. peter barnes in washington with the latest. they were saying we believe actions, we have heard so much chatter, we can't really bet on that. >> right now we're just hearing chatter. the president speaks to senate democratic leader harry reid, we have learned. meeting yesterday at the white house with a speaker banner an in a speech in detroia couple of hours go the president extended little olive branch to the republicans. >> i have said i would work with republicans on a plan for economic growth, job creation and reducing our deficits. and some compromise between democrats and republicans, i understand people have a lot of different views, i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> i spoke to an aide to one top republican leader who was a little bit upset by the comment the president would be willing to compromise a little bit. the white house did not disclose any details of the meeting with the president and the speaker yesterday only confirmed that communications remain open. tim j
president obama changing his tone a little bit mentioning compromise. peter barnes in washington with the latest. they were saying we believe actions, we have heard so much chatter, we can't really bet on that. >> right now we're just hearing chatter. the president speaks to senate democratic leader harry reid, we have learned. meeting yesterday at the white house with a speaker banner an in a speech in detroia couple of hours go the president extended little olive branch to the...
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but when you look at the potential solutions, does obama have a mandate? we asked that question. you see very big numbers, 68% says he has a mandate to cut taxes for people who earn less than 250k. 65% say he has a mandate to raise taxes on the wealthy while cutting spending. both elements are important. and when you ask about eliminating the bush tax cuts for people who make more than 250,000, 59% say he has a mandate to do that. so the president clearly has the whip hand in the negotiations, but, of course, members of congress don't respond to national polls. they're fought elected nationally like the president. they're responding to their districtes and that's why we have a different number to solve. >> i saw a number on nightly last night that was sadly low. we try to make something out of it. who would you blame if we go over? and it was 19 to 24. that was weird, wasn't it? that's where -- >> well, i think in some respects -- >> 19 we plame i think the president and 24% would blame -- that's not very -- that's like 24%? that's all you can get for that? you can't even make a
but when you look at the potential solutions, does obama have a mandate? we asked that question. you see very big numbers, 68% says he has a mandate to cut taxes for people who earn less than 250k. 65% say he has a mandate to raise taxes on the wealthy while cutting spending. both elements are important. and when you ask about eliminating the bush tax cuts for people who make more than 250,000, 59% say he has a mandate to do that. so the president clearly has the whip hand in the negotiations,...
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when we go over the cliff as matter of law the obama tax cuts expire. we have sequestration where these drastic cuts take place but the president politically knows that even if it a deal is made in january, february on spending they can be made retroactively. so the president believes he is in a much better position on spending than he is today in making a deal because any deal that they make will be retroactive. adam: let me flip your logic. do you think politically i don't think it would be good economically, politically good for the republicans to call the bluff, go over the cliff. yes, there is short-term pain come 2014, midterm's election the president's economy. the president gets responsibility for what happens after the cliff drops. wouldn't that be the political move to make if you're john boehner? >> we really have no choice. president is in the driver's seat and boehner is hostage in the back seat with the president with his foot on the gas. nothing the speaker can do, other than perhaps, i think it would be politically wise for the house to
when we go over the cliff as matter of law the obama tax cuts expire. we have sequestration where these drastic cuts take place but the president politically knows that even if it a deal is made in january, february on spending they can be made retroactively. so the president believes he is in a much better position on spending than he is today in making a deal because any deal that they make will be retroactive. adam: let me flip your logic. do you think politically i don't think it would be...